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adrjork
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03.02.2018, 06:52

Hi everyone, I don't speak Greek, sorry.
I hope someone can help me.
I found a very rare electronic music instrument in a e-shop named LioLios (http://www.liolios.gr) but I know nothing about this e-shop.
The only thing in their contact page is:
ΛΙΟΛΙΟΣ ΜΟΥΣΙΚΗ ΗΧΟΣ & ΦΩΣ ΑΕ
 ΕΜΠΟΡΙΑ ΜΟΥΣ.ΟΡΓΑΝΩΝ ΚΑΙ ΗΧΗΤΙΚΩΝ
 ΧΑΛΚΗΣ 7. ΠΑΤΡΙΑΡΧΙΚΑ ΠΥΛΑΙΑΣ (ΠΛΗΣΙΟΝ MEDITERRANEAN COSMOS)
 ΘΕΣΣΑΛΟΝΙΚΗ  - Τ.Κ 55535 - ΕΛΛΑΔΑ
 ΤΗΛ: 2310949411

Before buying, I'd like to have some opinions about this shop: are they honest? do the address and phone correspond to a real shop? are they serious?

Please, tell me your opinions.

Thanks


#1   
jorge
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03.02.2018, 14:52
Did you try to call them?
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adrjork
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03.02.2018, 19:11

Hi, thanks for your reply.
Yes, I wrote to them and they kindly replied to me saying that they have the product (a demo) and they can ship it to Italy.
But some doubts remain (and I wrote it to them):
1. In their website I can't find any VAT number (it should be visible for law);
2. About their web address, whois says that registry for their domain name does not publish ownership records, and IP location says Germany;
3. No PayPal option;
4. At the end of the checkout they give you 3 different IBAN telling you to make the bank transfer in order to complete the order, BUT the shipping cost is not included and not calculated!

Since the product I want to buy is very expensive (for me), I'm a bit in a worry :)


#3   
VOICETEACHER
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06.02.2018, 08:29
I know the place many yrs in my city.more than25 -30 yrs.
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adrjork
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07.02.2018, 00:10
Thanks a lot.
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floydpink
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08.02.2018, 03:58

the companys vat is

VAT EL094143361

Ths company is not just an e-shop and many companies here don't use paypal.

I don't live in Thessaloniki but looks like a company that sells musical instruments and perfectly leagal

You can download their last published annual balance sheet from their site here

www.liolios.gr/uploaded/files/isologismos-2015.pdf

total annual sales for 2014 were 455.691,57 euros

total annual sales for 2015 were 295.743,16 euros

https://www.google.com/maps/place/MUSIC+CENTER+LIOLIOS/@40.5614615,22.98873,156m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x1a8899a7b9fab224!8m2!3d40.5620467!4d22.98921

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adrjork
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08.02.2018, 23:21
Really thanks for all these useful infos!
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